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mfdanko99 08-13-2019 07:01 AM

Pymatuning Trip
 
I will have to move the Pymatuning trip from Saturday to Sunday the 25th of August. With the trip being a up and back and roughly a two hour paddle I will pick a mid afternoon meet up time
of 2pm

Pymatuning Creek-Orangeville Trip Leader Mike
When-Sunday August 25th

Where- Andy Dorick Park 8280 Hartford St (St Rt 609) Orangeville, OH 44404

GPS 41.338468, -80.522162

Time 2 pm
After several years we will make our way back to Northeastern Trumbull County. This paddle has a little more meaning this time, Pymatuning Creek is the newest Ohio Wild & Scenic River (2019). This paddle will be a nice easy up and back paddle which means no shuttle.
For more information on Pymatuning Creek visit https://www.eastgatecog.org/news/new...d-scenic-river or
http://watercraft.ohiodnr.gov/pymatuningsr
Hope to see ya there
Mike Danko

mfdanko99 08-23-2019 05:13 PM

Anyone plan on making the paddle Sunday?

Sara 08-23-2019 06:35 PM

would love to, but I have a new car and no rack. Anyone coming from Youngstown?

Sara 08-23-2019 06:37 PM

I would love to, but I have a new car and no rack. Anyone gong from Youngstown?

KenM 08-23-2019 08:53 PM

Ken and Cheryl rsvp= yes
 
K & C expect to attend. We paddled this section July 2018 with gage at 4.8 ft. Gage is now close to 5.19 ft. Current is very slow. We managed to paddle up stream 2.8 miles before a large tree blocked our path.

Is there a toilet at the park?

SOS57 08-23-2019 09:42 PM

I'll be there Sunday.


SARA I pm'd you. Give me a call, as it's not far out of my way to pick you up. I have room for another kayak on my trailer.

mfdanko99 08-24-2019 09:16 AM

Jessica, tori, & myself will be in a canoe

richpinky 08-24-2019 10:05 AM

we will be there

djstone 08-24-2019 12:02 PM

Tom and I are planning on doing this paddle. It will be new to us so we don't want to miss it!

Darla Freed

djstone 08-24-2019 03:02 PM

No restroom at the park but there is a Shell station about a mile down the road.

ramoore 08-25-2019 05:46 PM

Thank you MIKE!!! Great day!! Felt like one of those 'days in heaven'!!

djstone 08-25-2019 08:39 PM

We say Pymatuning Creek they say Shenango River
 
We really enjoyed this paddle today. Nice weather, easy water, scenic vistas, and good company. What more could you ask for? If you couldn't make it today, make sure you attend this one next time. Paddle on!

Darla

mfdanko99 08-26-2019 04:03 PM

Trip Review
 
What an amazing day on Pymatuning Creek. With temps in the mid 70's and a little breeze made for a great paddle. We had 17 paddlers (13 Kayaks & 2 Canoes) and 1 doggy.

It was great to see Ken and Cheryl break out the old Grumman Canoe for this trip. Also another great surprise was Forest who drove 152 miles from Western Ohio to paddle with the club.

On this trip most of us paddle 2.5 miles up and then back for a nice 5 mile paddle. Ken, Cheryl, Stan & Forest went a little farther before a major blockage forced them to turn around.

This creek is truly amazing, once you get around the first bend you are completely out in the wild with so signs of civilization.

After the paddle a small group of 8 (Tom, Darla, Ken Cheryl, Ron, Rich, Jessica, myself, & Tori)made their way to Top Notch Diner in Cortland for eat out on the deck and enjoy great paddle stories and each other company.

Thanks to all who came for a great day on the river.

Mike Danko

KenM 08-26-2019 10:02 PM

An enjoyable trip
 
K & C really enjoyed this paddle and were glad Mike had put it on the schedule. Once away from the park it becomes very quiet and gives a nice sense of remoteness. Other than Riverfest I only brought the "Grumman" canoe on one overnight trip. We always bring our kayaks.

I often laugh because Mike in his canoe reminds me of a Mother Duck with all the ducklings (kayaks) all around. Now Cheryl and I were trying not to run over all those puny kayaks. Ha! We got a pretty good workout manuvering though all the logs and stumps (and kayaks) with the canoe.

Most of our group on Sunday paddled 2.6 miles before returning. Four of us paddled 3.1 miles (another 15 minutes upstream). We got stopped by a river-wide tree but I think with a hand saw you could quickly get through some small branches on river left but it was time to head back anyway.

-KenM

KenM 08-27-2019 10:48 AM

for future reference
 
As I noted, four of us paddled 3.1 miles upstream. We got stopped by a river-wide tree but I think with a hand saw you could get through some small branches on river left.

I did a quick measurement to find that the bridge and parking on East Milligan Road (river right) was only 1.4 miles further upstream. A couple of years ago that section was a log-fest but I wonder if possibly it is open now? That would make a nice 4.5 mile paddle down to Orangeville.

River mileage... As the crow flies, it is 8 miles from Orangeville to Kinsman. By water with all those crooks and turns it is 14.2 miles.

Water gage... The Pymatuning is a slow and sluggish creek. My paddle book notes a gradient of only 2 ft per mile drop. Gage at Kinsman was 5.2 ft this paddle but the evidence from debris in trees was that is it gets a lot higher. I looked to see that on July 21, 2019 it had been 11.9 ft. And from January 1, 2019 it had been over 10 ft at least 9 times.

KenM 08-27-2019 10:58 AM

Just to confuse you
 
Darla,

Just to keep you confused...

The Shenango River in PA flows into Pymatuning Lake then continues after the dam as Shenango River.

Pymatuning Creek in Ohio flows through the Shenango Wildlife Area then flows into the Shenango Lake and then the Shenango River again.

Why did they ever name it Pymatuning Lake ???

Ken

SOS57 08-27-2019 09:22 PM

Pymatuning Creek Paddle
 
Even better. We look to the Go Paddle app and map for guidance on many paddles. We also go to Google Maps to find our destinations. However both of these believe this river to be The Shenango River at this point. I have sent corespondance to both asking them to look into this issue and correct it. Have not had a reply from either as of yet.



However the Ohio DNR does have this now listed as PYMATUNING CREEK and classifies it as a Wild and Scenic Waterway.


History of Pymatuning:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pymatuning_Reservoir


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