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JPTolson 05-22-2018 08:00 PM

Middle Fork of Little Beaver Creek
 
TCT,
I saw this trip posted on the Columbiana County Park District Facebook page: The Saturday that the notice is referring to is May 26.

JP

Columbiana County Park District

Are you ready to brave the Middle Fork of the Little Beaver Creek? We will hold a kayak/canoe run on Saturday at 10 a.m. We will put in our craft at the Covered Bridge on Eagleton Road and paddle downstream to the canoe launch area close to the PL&W railroad station in Lisbon. For more information, call the park office at 330 424 9078. (note: this depends on the weather the day of the event)

mfdanko99 05-22-2018 09:41 PM

Figures, I have to work :(
Never did that section

BOBK 05-23-2018 09:18 AM

Having peddled the bike path that follows this section of Little Beaver Creek on several occasions, I advise anyone that can make this paddle to do so. It is an absolutely gorgeous section of the creek.

KenM 05-23-2018 01:34 PM

the details...
 
I called the park and asked about this paddle. The paddle starts 10 am at the covered bridge near Teagarden and ends at the launch that is on the south side of Lisbon. The dam at Willow Grove has been removed. I measure this run at 5.8 miles.

This is a first time event for Columbiana Parks. There are NO shuttles. You need to supply your own transport... So really this could be done anytime (if there was water).

The Park's concern at this time was maybe having too much water with the last rainfall. Hard to say? I would almost think it might be low? Anyone have a feel for water level here? The next rain/thunderstorms might be Sunday. I did get a mobile phone number for the coordinator for last minute questions.

Anyone have an interest in this section? Fri, Sat, or other time?

BOBK 05-23-2018 02:04 PM

Ken, every time I have peddled on the trail next to it, no matter the time of year, it has always looked to be too low to paddle.

JPTolson 05-23-2018 02:40 PM

Four years ago I paddled this section (the one and only time that I’ve paddled it) with Bruce and Dianne Ambrose and Ron Eells. The gage at Grimm’s Bridge was 5.0, and we estimated that we had about two to three inches of water. There is also a low-water bridge immediately downstream after Route 164 crosses the river in Lisbon. It was not an issue at that water level, but a couple more feet of water could make it a problem. Supposedly there is also a small dam somewhere in that vicinity (not the dam upstream at Willow Grove Park that, as Ken mentioned, has been removed), but we never noticed it. As BOBK indicated, this is a pretty section of the Middle Fork. However, the scenery gets pretty trashy once into Lisbon. We paddled all the way through Lisbon and took out at the ODNR access area in Elkton. Hope this helps.

KenM 05-24-2018 09:09 AM

190 cfs where?
 
The 1983 Canoeing Ohio book states a min of 190 cfs for this section... but doesn't mention where that figure came from. If from the Grimms that's a long way away and a many small (dry) streams on 3 branches later. At gage 2.9ft = 172 cfs (not verified). I doubt that info helps very much... but it's easier to google than drive to Lisbon. Ha. Really though, maybe I'll just take a ride and go look.

I wonder if a long time ago there was a gage at Willow Grove dam?

On another note I came across this website... don't remember if we had it listed for gage info. Some neat graphics if you poke around.

http://snoflo.org/report/flow/ohio/l...-liverpool-oh/

KenM 05-24-2018 09:33 AM

more Google...
 
another write-up:
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A nice chance to paddle Little Beaver Creek. You can float nearly 9 miles and make almost the entire shuttle on the Little Beaver Creek Greenway.

The LBC Greenway ( http://www.bicycletrail.com/Greenway.htm )
runs between Lisbon & Leetonia, with short road ride separating an extension on to Washingtonville. Parking isn't available at all the crossroads, so check the parking areas on the map and plan your ride around them. The trail is paved, with a few portions with minor, but noticeable hills.

The creek is mostly flat water, with occasional class I riffles, easily paddled by a canoe at normal water levels. Look for at least 400 cfs on the online USGS Little Beaver Creek stream gauge

Most of the creek should be clear, but there may be a few places that have downed trees to portage around. The biggest hazard is at Willow Grove Park, where there is a low head dam just past the take out - THIS DAM MUST BE AVOIDED. You can plan a paddling trip of nearly 9 miles and ride almost the entire shuttle on the trail. For a shorter trip paddle from Franklin Square (route 558) down to Teegarden bridge and ride back, or ride upstream from Lisbon to Teegarden and paddle back downstream. [edited]

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/vi...476394653&z=15

JPTolson 05-25-2018 06:00 AM

Definitely a paddle/pedal trip opportunity from Franklin Square to Lisbon with “shuttle” via the Greenway Trail. Above Franklin Square to Route 14 there would be several low water bridges to contend with, although the bike trail separates from the middle fork around Leetonia.

Canoeing Guide to Western Pennsylvania and Northern West Virginia (1991 edition and 2005 online edition) covers LBC including the middle fork. It says gage should be over 4.3 feet for this section. Based on my one-time experience, I think 4.3 would be too low, though as Ken points out, the gage is quite a distance downstream.

swampboy62 05-25-2018 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenM (Post 4864)
another write-up:
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A nice chance to paddle Little Beaver Creek. You can float nearly 9 miles and make almost the entire shuttle on the Little Beaver Creek Greenway.

The LBC Greenway ( http://www.bicycletrail.com/Greenway.htm )
runs between Lisbon & Leetonia, with short road ride separating an extension on to Washingtonville. Parking isn't available at all the crossroads, so check the parking areas on the map and plan your ride around them. The trail is paved, with a few portions with minor, but noticeable hills.

The creek is mostly flat water, with occasional class I riffles, easily paddled by a canoe at normal water levels. Look for at least 400 cfs on the online USGS Little Beaver Creek stream gauge

Most of the creek should be clear, but there may be a few places that have downed trees to portage around. The biggest hazard is at Willow Grove Park, where there is a low head dam just past the take out - THIS DAM MUST BE AVOIDED. You can plan a paddling trip of nearly 9 miles and ride almost the entire shuttle on the trail. For a shorter trip paddle from Franklin Square (route 558) down to Teegarden bridge and ride back, or ride upstream from Lisbon to Teegarden and paddle back downstream. [edited]

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/vi...476394653&z=15

That's one of my maps. I've ridden that trail probably a hundred times. The flow level is an educated guess, but it probably on the low side. Maybe my tolerance for low water runs is decreasing, but where I used to think of 300 cfs as an absolute low for Beaver Creek from the mill down to Sprucevale, now I'd almost double that. So for a more realistic level for that section I'd guess a bare minimum of 800.

I'm going to go revise that map text right now. Sorry to have posted misleading info.

Steve Z

KenM 05-25-2018 08:29 AM

The scouting trip 5-24-18
 
The scouting trip 5-24-18

K & C took a ride over to Teegarden and down to Lisbon on Thursday afternoon. Grimms gage at noon was 589 (3.99 ft) and declining slowly.

A lovely summer afternoon with sun, shade along river, quiet except for singing birds. We found the creek inviting.

The creek at Teegarden had a decent flow of water. There were nice stretches of knee deep pools and then shallow gravel bars... typical of the stretch down to Lisbon. It appeared to us that you could find a shallow channel through some gravel bars but others may need to be walked through. Gravel is maybe egg-size or smaller so not hard to walk on. I would say a smaller (10-12 ft) boat would be more suitable because of some tight turns. You may make it through some gravel with some scrapping. Some you will walk. The longest bar that we could observe was just downstream of Willow Grove Park, almost under RT 30, where I think the dam had been. This is about .5 mile from Lisbon takeout and, as noted earlier, that short bit of river is not quite so attractive as upstream. From roads and bridges we did not observe any log jams.

If I would have had a ride back from Lisbon (and a boat) I would have wore some river-walking shoes and launched my 10 ft kayak without much thinking. By Saturday morning... not so sure what it may look like if water came down very much. Like here though, the ground is currently soaked from rain and still draining from woods and farmland so hard to say.

Ken

JPTolson 05-28-2018 11:29 AM

Trip Report
 
Here is the trip summary on the Columbiana County Park District FB page. The gage was around 3.5 ft. and flow about 375 cfs.


Columbiana County Park District

We walked more than we might have liked due to low water but the Columbiana County Park District's first Kayak and Canoe Trip down the Middle Fork of the Little Beaver Creek was a success. We put in at the Covered Bridge on Eagleton Road and rode the creek down to Lisbon's canoe area by the PL&W railroad station. With bright sunny skies and temperatures in the mid-80s, what wasn't there to enjoy?

KenM 05-28-2018 12:09 PM

I don't "do" facebook but I saw the report.

The office gave me the supposed coordinator's phone number. I called 8:15 a Sat morning to see if they were still doing this. No answer, left message but no call back. Looks like 6 people...I guess it was a private party not a public event. Boo on Columbiana County for posting this.

I guess I'm spoiled by an organized club.

KenM

JPTolson 06-03-2018 10:41 AM

Painted Gage Would Help
 
This is a situation where a painted gage on a bridge abutment would be very useful. Since the gage is probably 15-20 miles downstream, the river at Teegarden could already have dropped to below paddling zero by the time the gage reading reaches what might be considered the minimum runnable level. And vice versa–the river at Teagarden could be runnable before enough water reaches the gage to achieve the so-called minimum runnable level. Of course all of this depends where the rain falls in the watershed.

erbego 07-27-2018 01:59 PM

May 26 Trip on Middle Fork of the Little Beaver
 
Someone in this group posted a link to a volunteer-led trip on Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. I was one of the 6 participants. Three were locals, two were out-of-town relatives of the volunteer leader. It turned out to be a memorable trip.

The water was quite shallow, but just deep enough to get through without getting out of your boat if you could read water. At times a little pushing off the riverbed was needed.

I was a little embarrassed at the put-in because I had my 14 foot fiberglass boat, spray skirt, life vest, throw rope, webbing, carabiner, first aid kit, water and paddle gloves. The others had cheap 6 foot boats, water and a cell phone. I joked about feeling a bit "overdressed" and we all chuckled.

It was hot and dry, but rain was threatening. Our leader had a family picnic gathering to get to after the paddle, so we commented about wanting to finish within a certain time frame, which would get him to his picnic and help us beat the rain. Someone joked that if we are still on the river by such-and-such a time it would mean something bad happened.

Off we go down the river. I immediately noted the 2 out-of-town relatives had absolutely no experience with kayaks. They spent more time dragging their boats than paddling them. The other 3 could control their boats but only one of them knew how to read water. He took the lead, followed by his girlfriend. The rest of us varied our positions as people got stuck on rocks, ran into each other, passed each other, waited for each other, etc. The volunteer eventually figured out he would benefit from following me, so we ended up paddling side-by-side in the deeper sections and chatting.

When he asked my about how to read water I guess I became a tad bit over animated pointing and gesturing, as I was talking away when suddenly I flipped. I'm not quite sure what happened, but the theory is that I tried to break my flip with my hand, it hit the river bottom and broke my wrist. It is possible the paddle blade hit the river bottom and my wrist broke while holding onto the paddle. All I remember is being upside down in my boat and surprised that it was deep enough to try a roll. I had no clue my wrist was injured, as the pain hadn't yet set in. I set up my paddle and rolled, but only made it halfway and fell back under. Now my wrist hurt a little and I debated whether to roll again or swim out. Dummy me decided to try another roll. After that failed attempt I KNEW WITHOUT A DOUBT I had seriously injured my wrist. I pulled the spray skirt and swam to the surface.

They helped me onto a gravel bar, got out my first aid kit and wrapped up my wrist. I was unable to paddle further and we were not in a place were I could get to the bike path and walk out. And even if I could, what about my boat?

We ended up threading my throw rope through the grab loop on my bow and connecting it to my webbing loop with the carabiner. The 1 other person who could read water put the webbing over one shoulder. I gave my paddle to his girlfriend and held onto the throw rope with my one usable hand. This way he could tow me to the first good access point and we each could easily release the tow line as needed. Talk about scary! He would get himself successfully through the shallow spots, but the current would push my boat off-line and I'd have to yell to him to "go left, go left" or "hard right, hard right". He got hung up once; I got hung up once. It was the scariest river mile of my life!

When we got me out of the boat and the boat by the side of the road the girl called her parents, who picked me up, took me back to my car and lead me back to the boat. The group loaded my boat onto my car, then I called insurance. I had to drive one-handed 45 minutes toward home to get to an in-network facility. They told me if I went to an emergency room and the wrist was not broken they would not pay anything for the visit.

The others continued down river when I drove away. My guess is they got caught in the rain and the volunteer was late to his picnic. Yep, something bad happened. LOL

Luckily??? my wrist was broken. No orthopod was working the holiday weekend so had to call for appointment on Tuesday. Saw the doctor Thursday, had surgery late Friday--got a plate and 7 screws. Am recovering well, albeit way too slowly. It is what it is...

The moral of the story--ALWAYS be prepared and NEVER joke about being over-prepared or something bad happening! NEVER paddle alone. I started paddling whitewater in 1994 and have flipped many a time. I have seen countless flips by other paddlers. I have never seen, nor heard of, this type of injury from a flip. I have paddled the Class III Lower Yough alone a half a dozen times but will not do it again. Sometimes freak accidents just happen and this was one of those times. I feel lucky that it was not a whitewater river, as I am not sure how I would have gotten out. It would have been a major (and costly) rescue.

Stay safe this summer and have fun. I hope to paddle with you guys before the season ends, but it may be next year before I am ready for rivers again.

jimbo 07-28-2018 03:17 AM

Wow, what a story. Sorry to hear about your wrist. Another example that wearing a PFD is a good idea. We were hoping you could make the Allegheny River Fall Colors Camping Trip from Franklin to Emlenton in October.
Jim


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