Pymatuning Trip - Page 2

KenM · 08-26-2019, 10:02 PM

K & C really enjoyed this paddle and were glad Mike had put it on the schedule. Once away from the park it becomes very quiet and gives a nice sense of remoteness. Other than Riverfest I only brought the "Grumman" canoe on one overnight trip. We always bring our kayaks.

I often laugh because Mike in his canoe reminds me of a Mother Duck with all the ducklings (kayaks) all around. Now Cheryl and I were trying not to run over all those puny kayaks. Ha! We got a pretty good workout manuvering though all the logs and stumps (and kayaks) with the canoe.

Most of our group on Sunday paddled 2.6 miles before returning. Four of us paddled 3.1 miles (another 15 minutes upstream). We got stopped by a river-wide tree but I think with a hand saw you could quickly get through some small branches on river left but it was time to head back anyway.

-KenM

KenM · 08-27-2019, 10:48 AM

As I noted, four of us paddled 3.1 miles upstream. We got stopped by a river-wide tree but I think with a hand saw you could get through some small branches on river left.

I did a quick measurement to find that the bridge and parking on East Milligan Road (river right) was only 1.4 miles further upstream. A couple of years ago that section was a log-fest but I wonder if possibly it is open now? That would make a nice 4.5 mile paddle down to Orangeville.

River mileage... As the crow flies, it is 8 miles from Orangeville to Kinsman. By water with all those crooks and turns it is 14.2 miles.

Water gage... The Pymatuning is a slow and sluggish creek. My paddle book notes a gradient of only 2 ft per mile drop. Gage at Kinsman was 5.2 ft this paddle but the evidence from debris in trees was that is it gets a lot higher. I looked to see that on July 21, 2019 it had been 11.9 ft. And from January 1, 2019 it had been over 10 ft at least 9 times.

KenM · 08-27-2019, 10:58 AM

Darla,

Just to keep you confused...

The Shenango River in PA flows into Pymatuning Lake then continues after the dam as Shenango River.

Pymatuning Creek in Ohio flows through the Shenango Wildlife Area then flows into the Shenango Lake and then the Shenango River again.

Why did they ever name it Pymatuning Lake ???

Ken

SOS57 · 08-27-2019, 09:22 PM

Even better. We look to the Go Paddle app and map for guidance on many paddles. We also go to Google Maps to find our destinations. However both of these believe this river to be The Shenango River at this point. I have sent corespondance to both asking them to look into this issue and correct it. Have not had a reply from either as of yet.

However the Ohio DNR does have this now listed as PYMATUNING CREEK and classifies it as a Wild and Scenic Waterway.

History of Pymatuning:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pymatuning_Reservoir

08-26-2019, 10:02 PM	#1
KenM Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Louisville Oh Posts: 389 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	An enjoyable trip K & C really enjoyed this paddle and were glad Mike had put it on the schedule. Once away from the park it becomes very quiet and gives a nice sense of remoteness. Other than Riverfest I only brought the "Grumman" canoe on one overnight trip. We always bring our kayaks. I often laugh because Mike in his canoe reminds me of a Mother Duck with all the ducklings (kayaks) all around. Now Cheryl and I were trying not to run over all those puny kayaks. Ha! We got a pretty good workout manuvering though all the logs and stumps (and kayaks) with the canoe. Most of our group on Sunday paddled 2.6 miles before returning. Four of us paddled 3.1 miles (another 15 minutes upstream). We got stopped by a river-wide tree but I think with a hand saw you could quickly get through some small branches on river left but it was time to head back anyway. -KenM

08-27-2019, 10:48 AM	#2
KenM Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Louisville Oh Posts: 389 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	for future reference As I noted, four of us paddled 3.1 miles upstream. We got stopped by a river-wide tree but I think with a hand saw you could get through some small branches on river left. I did a quick measurement to find that the bridge and parking on East Milligan Road (river right) was only 1.4 miles further upstream. A couple of years ago that section was a log-fest but I wonder if possibly it is open now? That would make a nice 4.5 mile paddle down to Orangeville. River mileage... As the crow flies, it is 8 miles from Orangeville to Kinsman. By water with all those crooks and turns it is 14.2 miles. Water gage... The Pymatuning is a slow and sluggish creek. My paddle book notes a gradient of only 2 ft per mile drop. Gage at Kinsman was 5.2 ft this paddle but the evidence from debris in trees was that is it gets a lot higher. I looked to see that on July 21, 2019 it had been 11.9 ft. And from January 1, 2019 it had been over 10 ft at least 9 times.

08-27-2019, 10:58 AM	#3
KenM Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Louisville Oh Posts: 389 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Just to confuse you Darla, Just to keep you confused... The Shenango River in PA flows into Pymatuning Lake then continues after the dam as Shenango River. Pymatuning Creek in Ohio flows through the Shenango Wildlife Area then flows into the Shenango Lake and then the Shenango River again. Why did they ever name it Pymatuning Lake ??? Ken

08-27-2019, 09:22 PM	#4
SOS57 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Bedford, Pa Posts: 151 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Pymatuning Creek Paddle Even better. We look to the Go Paddle app and map for guidance on many paddles. We also go to Google Maps to find our destinations. However both of these believe this river to be The Shenango River at this point. I have sent corespondance to both asking them to look into this issue and correct it. Have not had a reply from either as of yet. However the Ohio DNR does have this now listed as PYMATUNING CREEK and classifies it as a Wild and Scenic Waterway. History of Pymatuning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pymatuning_Reservoir __________________ Stan Last edited by SOS57; 08-27-2019 at 09:36 PM.